news_fans | [mod] Moderated Posting

while I understand the need to try and review posts to the community, is it possible for the mods to share the task so that we don't go 12-14 hours between the release of posts. I'm not sure how the work sharing goes but is it possible for someone to be monitoring this on a more regular basis?

We've finally hit a period of activity and it often appears that the community has gone into hibernation at the very time where they may actually be news!

Initially

aokiyai was watching over the moderation queue, in her absence I have taken this task and have contacted

sumairu, the other moderator on the team about this. We're both on opposite sides of the world so presently I don't there will be too much of an issue with the frequency of posts, especially when

aokiyai gets back.

ecan you delete ALL the warning posts of these few days? They are fairly spammy as well.

I have taken care of what I consider inappropriate or unnecessary. Sorry for any inconvenience or annoyance caused.

Uh can you explain something to me.
moderated posting <- this means you guys have to approve each post ya?

But I know some communities you have to be approved to join. Cant we just turn that on instead? Or would that not work because they already have alt account in here?

and sleeping is okay so you don't need to apologize!

ph yeah this! didn''t anyone think of this? XD

Neither did I.... muahahah`

I guess it would be a pain for anyone who wants to join. ( *I know cos I hate waiting to be approved for things!*) But its not like they would end up waiting weeks to be let in or anything.

well depending on how busy n how many mods there r in the com..it can happen..depends on how they do it also..i kno places that wouldnt accept u into the community if u dont have a certain number of journal entries..in that case..im at a total disadvantage cuz i use lj mainly to keep with my fandom news..my schedule doesnt exactly give mee time to blog even if i wanted to..thats y u dont see n e entries under my acct..since im mainly online n check up on wuts new on lj for the groups i focus on..i dont post spams or n e thing..so in that way..itz like im being shut off

i agree with the moderated posting..but more of a regular basis..n not have like 20 entries all at once..n nothing for half a day..like sumtimes i pop online..n i see no new posts..n i just wonder if either nothings going on or wut

"i kno places that wouldnt accept u into the community if u dont have a certain number of journal entries..in that case..im at a total disadvantage"

I've yet to run across this, BUT I agree.

But in the case that someone had no journal entry's "I" would probably write them a little blab and ask them to write back and tell me why they are interested. (if they really wanted to join, it shouldn't be that big of a deal)

"i agree with the moderated posting..but more of a regular basis"
I disagree.. because our mods have 'lives'
I don't see this happening realistically, with our current mods. (not offense mods. :) )

thats wut i meant by it depends on how they're going to base their membership rules..if it waz writing a short blurb about y i want to join..that can be easily done..but to places that require a certain amount of entries..for now..cant be done

wen i thought of regular basis..i waz rly hoping to have a couple more mods added..like seriously..with our limited few right now..that job basically cant be done..n we r from all over the world..i duno where our current mods reside..but if they were more diverse n have more mods..then moderated posting can happen..but i duno how they split up their work right now..so wut can i say about their job

I brought this up last time, but the mod(s) said they didn't really want to do it. I don't know how many people join the community each day, but I wouldn't think it would be too much work.

Then the mods should make a Poll and let US decide.
I'm all for giving up he idea of having them do it, if the majority of us is against it. (even if I'm not.)

Haha I also dont know how many people join a day. BUT I totally assumed it would be easier to do that then approve each post...

*may be wrong though*

=)

Giving up THE idea* rather.. haha.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's probably a lot easier to sift through journals and decide whether they're spam or not then approve entries every day. Maybe a few more mods need to be added or something.

I mean, not saying that the mods right now aren't doing their best, but during the daytime hours in the US it doesn't seem like anyone is available.

*me also*

I think the mods arnt doing a very good job(overall), but this does not mean I dont think each one of them is doing there BEST.

Which is all I can ask of them :)

It's not like I think 'Oh my gosh, they are totally ignoring our Emails' haha.

"Maybe a few more mods need to be added or something."
YESH MORE- but I don't know how this works, (deciding on new mods ect)
But it would be great if we got some people with no lives who lived in diff time zones so they are on 24-7 for the most part. haha.

There are currently 13408 members in this comm. You mean you want the mods to go through each and every member's journal to see whether they are spam?? *LOL* Not to mention everyone has to be kicked out and then ppl have to rejoin for the comm to be membership moderated. You're joking right?

Moderated posting is the best way to go. At least mods are in control that the appropriate posts are available to the members. Not to mention the 'other' kind of meaningless posts this comm gets will be avoided too.

Ahhhhhh *stabstab*

"There are currently 13408 members in this comm. You mean you want the mods to go through each and every member's journal to see whether they are spam??"

NONONO, Everyone who's in NOW can stay! (spammer or not) Cant they remove spammers as then pop up from the already "13408 members" asking them to go threw each one is TO MUCH Work. I dont know why you guys all think I would want everyone removed and then have to add them back in, Is it not possible to switch Mod Members on and off with out taking everyone out of the community? o.O

Putting it on mod members would stop NEW spammers from coming.

And I think going threw 13408 members would be funny to. (like who in the right mind would do that! HAHA)

You know.. I might be able to help if you need more mod help. idk if you'd want it to be temporary or anything, but I'm online enough anyway where I could help with moderated posts, etc.

Ngoc to the rescue. ♥

once again i missed the entire saga because i was sleeping.. i dunno.. i think the mods were pretty fast in clearing up everything..

then again, 6-8 hours is considered good to me already.. considering that's how long it took for me to log back on..

i think more mods in various timezones would be better than moderated posting/entry/writing a blurb/no. of journal entries..

i think im just saying that because im lazy =.= it took me two years to start commenting on posts.. and i haven't even contributed/posted anything yet.

i totally agree with you on the "more mods in various timezones" part~

yeah2... agreed... it's more convenience if we have mods in various timezones...

I hope there is no moderated membership. Some people just don't like to make posts about their life and share it on the web. I'm one of them and there are probably more out there.

I use lj to get news about NEWS. It's pretty hard to search up information about the group through google, this community allows for me to keep up to date with them.

Maybe there's a way to block posts that don't allow commenting. I noticed that the person who's posting those webgains never allow comments. Obviously they don't want to share information, they just want to make money off of fans without us knowing.

moderated membership-

I'm for this idea, but I wouldn't want people NOT to be approved just because they don't make posts on there own LJ. (cos like you, I never commented/posted.) hehe. but I don't think it would be asking to much, so have them write up a paragraph or 2 about why they like 'NEWS' or why they want to join. I would HOPE this would keep away anyone (cos people are lazy) who was only here trying to make money.

I think having to prove to someone else that you like a certain group is a bit much. What would the criteria be to identify whether someone is a fan of NEWS or not? If the reason I like NEWS is because they are hot and that's it, would I be denied access to this community cause I couldn't write a full paragraph about them...

What if the person is new to NEWS. I know that when I first joined the community, I didn't know the group at all. This community made me a fan of NEWS, only after I joined.

And just because you're a fan of NEWS doesn't mean you're not gonna spam the community with useless posts. There are many NEWS fans that (I personally think) spam the community but I just skip over them cause you know they just wanna share with others.

Maybe there should be a rule against posting webgains cause that person doesn't think it's wrong to do so, so they keep on posting it. Or tell people to post webgains in the sales masterpost.

"What would the criteria be to identify whether someone is a fan of NEWS or not?"

Obviously the criteria does not matter.

If the person who is trying to post webgains wants to write a new paragraph each time they want to try an join then I think we should let them. ^.^; I hope they have a creative mind and don't write or send the same thing every time.

Do you think the person is even going to check and reply (or even try to join) if they have to write a paragraph? That's going to take to long, they cant just SKIP over this community and go to another.

"would I be denied access to this community cause I couldn't write a full paragraph about them"
All you have to do is TRY. There's like what seven sentences in a paragraph? Seven?

So you could just write "I like NEWS." and then one thing about each person in news. "I think Tegoshi is the prince of everything." (LOL)
ect.

I agree with what

guess1tego and

echowillow has said. There is not point in moderating membership now as spammers would have already joined the community and it would be absolutely ridiculous to kick out 13000+ members and have them apply for membership. Therefore I think moderated posting would be the most appropriate measure to take.

As for the issue of more moderators, the frequency of posts at the moment is pretty low and manageable by the current mod team.

aokiyai and I are located on opposite sides of the world so time differences are covered pretty well. It was just this instance where in

aokiyai's absence and time differences that the spam couldn't be helped.

"it would be absolutely ridiculous to kick out 13000+ members and have them apply for membership."

What, Lol. Why in the world, would we want you to do that. (or at least me) WAY to much work~! My thinking was,

If you have a jar of Jelly beans you guys can take out all the red jelly beans over time, If your moderating membership you have less chance of putting another red jelly bean into the jar.

That's the only way I can think of to explain it.

To me, this makes more scene them moding posts.
And I was not saying everyone should write a paragraph, if they don't have any journal posts they should have to write something. I'm just saying that people shouldn't be denied because they don't make posts on there journal (I think that's stupid)

If I was going to post links and spam community I wouldn't have any posts on my journal because I would be to busy spamming(and getting my journals shut down) and I differently wouldn't have enough time to try and join and then write a paragraph. Just the fact that I would have to be 'approved' to join would probably make me turn and look else were to post.

I just felt like this would be the easiest way for everyone.

Just trying to put the idea out there, not trying to force it.

PS: Sorry if you felt pressured by my comments haha, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was saying "YOU MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW!" or anything.

I'm also not really sure what 'MOD' is, I kinda felt, What you guys think shouldn't matter. Correction - Your thoughts shouldn't over power ours. (not you specifically but mods in general.) I thought Mods were here to kinda 'serve the community' and keep it running smoothly.

Like I previously said, There is not point in moderating membership now as spammers would have already joined the community therefore this won't prevent spam, unless this is not your ultimate goal.

The frequency of posts to the community is low and manageable. Moderation of posts allow mods to sift through and approve good or reject bad posts before they hit the community and protects your friends page from inappropriate content. Please understand that there is no need to moderate membership.

So my jar story didnt help at all?

haha I dont understand why you cant 'Pick them off' one at a time.
You cant ban and remove spammers from the community?
(I dont know how mod works I just assumed you could)

why don't you just JOIN right now then? ALL the good things are locked.

Is this directed to me? I've been a member of this community since 2006. I think moderated membership is wrong, I was voicing my opinion.

Like I wrote before, just cause people are a fan of NEWS doesn't mean you're not gonna spam the community. Anyone can spam the community if they really wanted to.

oh no it is directed to everyone who doesn't join and yet complains. Because teh stuff that every NEWS fan would want to have are all locked. So you can't see it, and hence I don't understand why the people who don't join are complaining as well. *sigh*

moderated membership is right, when you are limiting the number of membership. I've seen some people do that. XD I think it is very right. If it is opened to all fans, then it should be non-moderated, like in news_jpop case.

But we have this webgain links... which I already understood and don't really care..... LOL

spamming the comm.. many types of spam ne. Some spams are necessary, when times are cold....

I will stop here.

I think once this community applies moderated membership, NEWS would lose many fans. I've seen some Arashi's subteams requesting others to write essay about what they like about Arashi so that the mods can decide whether the applicants are "true" fans or not. It's no secret that many fans are bitter when their requests to join were refused because what they write is not "good enough". I certainly don't wanna see the same thing happen to NEWS community. After all, this community has been one of the warmest and most welcoming communities. Besides, news_jpop is a place to help NEWS's fan keep up with info, news, etc.. about the group, it's very different to subteam community. Each fan, new or old, has equal right to be the member as long as they are interest in NEWS. I think this is also for NEWS' best interest that the mods keep the community as it is. And many thanks to the mods for all of ur hard works.

Thank you so much for taking care of this while I was gone. *___* I-I wasn't expecting it to flare up again, so I apologize for being incautious. ;;; Since I'm back now, hopefully the moderation queue won't get too long. I try to check around 6am and 6pm EST so hopefully posts won't backlog too much. :D;;

no worries. welcome back, i'm glad you had a safe trip. :)

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